Mon 10 Oct 2005
This is all speculation. I know nothing. No one has told me a thing cause they think I’d blab it all over the internet.
With this story I’m raising the odds of Paul Hackett’s political career being over to %75. I don’t see him taking on the Democratic Leadership, and I don’t see him putting up with their B.S.
My hope is that he becomes a powerful activist voice on getting our troops home. Neither Party has the guts to lead on this issue, and we need leadership fast. The cameras love Paul Hackett. He can make a real difference, maybe more than if he’s running for office. What’s the Democratic Party’s loss could well be America’s gain.
From what I’ve heard, Senator DeWine will be pleased.
UPDATE: Basie! is now reporting that the DSCC is denying the story. From what I understand Schumer is against contested primaries. Not sure what’s going on here.
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October 10th, 2005 at 4:23 pm
DNC, not RNC, buries Paul Hackett
First the Cincinnati Bengals fumble away their winning streak, and now the Cincinnati Democrats are stripped of their rising star… But at least with the Bengals it was the other side that rained on the parade.
October 10th, 2005 at 4:55 pm
I suppose Brown’s people brought pressure from with in the party, called in some favors. I don’t think he’s as strong a canidate as Paul. No one is asking me but I say DSCC has just failed us in Ohio. Brown v. DeWine is a vote loser, not only do we lose the pro gun voter, we lose the moderate-conservative vote. My father in law, a life long democrat, just told me he would vote for DeWine before he ever votes for Brown. He’s pissed off that Brown is telling Hackett to back down.
October 10th, 2005 at 5:15 pm
Tell everyone you know to make their feelings known to the ….. (you fill in the blank) in DC. Make your feelings known by contacting the DSCC, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Phone (202) 224-2447 and the DNC, 202-863-8000.
If they let or push Hackett to drop out, they’ve given away their chance to win a Senate seat here. Great thinking. That’s what happens when you live in a bubble and forget what it’s like out here in the real world in the trenches.
People are sick and tired of mealy mouthed politicians and want a straight shooter who has the guts to say what he means and means what he says and who regular people can relate to. And that’s who Paul Hackett is and that why he can win in OH.
October 10th, 2005 at 5:17 pm
This is how the the leadership repays Hackett’s loyalty? The whole thing makes me sick. I stand shoulder to shoulder with roamingcoyote’s father-in-law. I will not vote for Brown, period. In fact, after this snake-in-the-grass maueuver, I’ll put all my efforts into his defeat.
Would that Paul Hackett could win as an independent and show both major parties where they can stick it.
October 10th, 2005 at 6:07 pm
Schumer may not like contested primaries but there are already some in Minnesota, Rhode Island, Maryland, so does it matter in Ohio.
Also I think Hackett’s spokesman Mr. B. needs to shut. Mr. B. is acting like it personally involves him. He doesn’t appear to be a good spokesman. Good spokesmen are nuanced.
October 10th, 2005 at 6:41 pm
He is NOT a good spokesman… hes an amateur trying to play at the professional level… its why we dont let 16 year old pitchers start a game in the world series. its because they have NO F-ING IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING!! Brautigham needs to keep his mouth shut and leave the talking to the people that are intelligent enough to understand the game of politics.
October 10th, 2005 at 10:09 pm
Why dosen’t the DSCC realize that Brown won’t win in Ohio, while Hackett would have a very good chance of winning?
If I was a Democrat, I’d be behind Hackett 100%. But I’m a Republican :-)…this whole situation is fun to watch.
October 10th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
yyyeah… like the Republicans don’t have their own problems keeping it together? Two words - Harriet Miers.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2005_10_09.PHP#004567
October 10th, 2005 at 10:40 pm
Oh yeah… that guy is a real crappy spokesman. That’s why he’s got the DSCC and Brown playing defense. If Hackett folds Brown’s got major problems no matter how many star bloggers he’s got on the payroll. They know it, Hackett knows it. Hackett’s got NOTHING to lose. In poker that makes you very dangerous. The DSCC have a lot to lose. Brown has a lot to lose. Bad karma messing with Hackett. Hacket’s got a posse.
Brown’s people have been leaking all over the place trying to spin things in a good light. At least Hackett’s people have the stones to speak on the record. If Hackett stays in I look forward to watching DeWine’s people whine the same way. That’s why I love covering Hackett. You want fighting Democrats, you’ve got fighting Democrats.
October 11th, 2005 at 1:24 am
Evil Editor,
My feeling is that Hackett needs to follow his own words and stay in the senate race. “Lead or get the hell out of the way” and if you don’t push back harder than you are in the wrong race. Hackett and posse should shut up then get everything in place, and then make a large announcement on October 24th that he is running for Ohio Senate.
October 11th, 2005 at 2:21 am
Oh yeah… Hackett and posse should shut up, but Brown through his media buds can pontificate all over the damn place.
The mojo of the posse is that they hit back and they do so directly. It’s a fun dynamic. Me, I’m hoping for a big primary fight just so I can see a Democrat subjected to it.
I think the philosopher Ludacris said it best:
October 11th, 2005 at 5:12 am
HEY! What I tell you about quoting rap lyrics on the blog? I’m warning you.
Gentle readers… it’s all metaphor. Please don’t be alarmed.
October 11th, 2005 at 5:34 am
Damn Brahms lovin fool. Why don’t you listen to some real music? By someone alive?
October 11th, 2005 at 7:00 am
Evil Editor
I like you. You have “guts” and cahoons (?spelling).
October 11th, 2005 at 7:51 am
Hackett should stay in the race and tailor his campaign towards the General election against DeWine and forget that Brown is even in the race. Why do this?? Because Brown doesn’t have a chance statewide, since he’s too liberal for most Ohio voters (just so you know I’m very liberal, but I want to win). Because Hackett’s message should be the same, regardless of the opponent. That’s what people like (love) about him and that’s how he wins people over. And that’s why he’ll win statewide. Telling it like it is, his service in Iraq, and his moderate libertarian Democrat positions on a miriad of issues is the recipe for victory in Ohio. Like I said, I hate guns and don’t see them as anything positive for our society, but I’ll have to compromise on this issue to get some other stuff that’s critical, especially victory.
And Hackett’s got guts and backbone, too (cojones–this is the correct spelling).
October 11th, 2005 at 8:19 am
Can some one tell Hackett to get off his duff and stay in this race for senate?
October 11th, 2005 at 11:31 am
I’m sorry but I don’t think I’d blame Paul if he decided not to run.
This is utter BS (note my restraint). I don’t know much about Brown but he’s been in office what, 10 years? He’s apart of the problem, it’s time to go. I don’t care how much experience he has, it has gotten us nowhere. I truly believe Paul Hackett will do what is right or die trying. He WILL fight for the common good and do what makes sense and is in our best interest. The core foundation of Hackett beats Brown hands down. Hackett stands up for what he believes in. Brown stands up, sits down and has to think about what he believes in. If I’m going down dammit I want to go down swinging. Blaze of glory baby, let’s cut us a square!
October 11th, 2005 at 10:26 pm
Mrs. Editor, et al,
Please research on all that Sherrod Brown has done for us. I think you will find he has a great record. I just hate to see all of the Congressman’s good work being belittled.
And no, I am not personally endorsing either candidate. I feel they are both worthy candidates.
I do not really want to get into this cat fight - but it appears that I am. I am game for a primary if the candidates are. It is up to the candidates and then the voters will decide. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
I understand, with a primary, the funds and energy will get split and spent for the primary race. But if it does turn out there is a primary, and your candidate does not win, are you going to vote against the Democrat as some people are saying? Shoot yourself in the foot? As I said, they are both worthy candidates.
Let’s not let our anger get the better of us and hurt our country even more than we are already hurting.
Okay, I said my piece, you may resume the cat fight….:)
October 11th, 2005 at 11:17 pm
What cat fight? Commenters venting is not a cat fight.
The question is: who the hell is Charles Schumer to tell Ohio voters who our representative to the U. S. Senate should be?
October 12th, 2005 at 11:39 am
I wasnt aware there was a cat-fight hon. I am all for a primary and if Hackett loses then Brown will still need to EARN my vote. Voting record is one thing. (i will be looking into) Merit of a man is another. I weigh both and Brown’s merit is pretty sucky to me right now. I will not vote for anyone just because they are a dem.